Anyone else fooled by a measure for measure? - Guild Wars Forums

Asia Skyly · Dec 08, 2010, 07:21 PM // 19:21

I do not recall all of the specific details, but two times I have been supremely shocked by the outcome of salvaging a gold R9+ weapon on which I had applied a measure for measure. In one instance I got a whooping 4 iron ingots. In the other, I got 2 iron ingots.

Anyone else experience such abysmal results?

intec · Dec 08, 2010, 08:02 PM // 20:02

i usually use mine on conches

the usual outcome is around 60-100+ dust so far ive experienced

AngelWJedi · Dec 08, 2010, 08:07 PM // 20:07

i always gotten from 15-150 of a mat. i only get shocked if i dont get the one mat i want and get a rare from a item im trying to salvage. like ruby from a ruby dagger instead of dust. xD

lisa night dk · Dec 08, 2010, 08:12 PM // 20:12

probably bc u used the "normal" salvage kit instead of "Experts"

Mr. Blarx · Dec 08, 2010, 08:14 PM // 20:14

Conches = lots of dust
Dolyak prod staff = lots of dust (not as much as conches though) or iron
Ruby weapons = rare chance of ruby/rubies, fair amount of granite
Bramble weapons = chance of fair amount of plant fibres

Great inscription

I never got just 4 or 2 mats :/ low req. nightfall drops by any chance? gotta learn to read.

Asia Skyly · Dec 08, 2010, 08:15 PM // 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by lisa night dk

probably bc u used the "normal" salvage kit instead of "Experts"

Interesting possibility! I will keep an eye on that in the future. Thanks for pointing that out.

This is actually quite possible as I usually carry the cheapest as well as the Superior Salvage kits. Maybe I accidentally used the cheap version?

Spiritz · Dec 08, 2010, 08:30 PM // 20:30

salvage kits do same amount - only sup kits give rare mats chance.
its more likely a glitch - hm items salv more than nm .

Ghull Ka · Dec 08, 2010, 08:55 PM // 20:55

Got a gold inscribable granite hammer last night. Can't wait to put a MfM on it and hit it with a regular salvage kit. ka-CHING!

(sorry, that was an anecdote, not an answer to a question... to answer the OP's question: no, i've never gotten terrible results like that unless the item was from Istan or whatnot.)

Voodoo Rage · Dec 08, 2010, 09:15 PM // 21:15

I once put a M4M on an R9 Diamond Aegis and it salvaged into a SINGLE pile of dust. My theory was that I managed to hit the "max" salvage number and it "roll over" to the 1. Or I was just super unlucky.

SpyderArachnid · Dec 08, 2010, 09:27 PM // 21:27

I've found that if I ID an item that has the inscription on it, then salvage it, I get bonus mats off it.

But if I salvage the inscription and put it on a different item, I get nothing.

In my experience, it only works for the item it was on originally. But that's just from my experience.

Kronk_Shaan · Dec 08, 2010, 09:39 PM // 21:39

I have had this happen with expert and sup salvage kits, but usually it's like 13 granite or 11 dust or something instead of some awesome number. I thought it was just that I was unlucky...although, that part could still be true.

Premium Unleaded · Dec 08, 2010, 09:52 PM // 21:52

I always figured items that have a chance to salvage super rare materials like gems could alternatively salvage into crap amounts of normal stuff, to balance it out.

*Darcy* · Dec 08, 2010, 10:03 PM // 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiritz

salvage kits do same amount - only sup kits give rare mats chance.
its more likely a glitch - hm items salv more than nm .

The Expert Salvage Kit gives a better chance of rare materials. The Superior Kit is just a larger Expert Kit.

"The Superior Kit does not have any added effect in comparison to an Expert Salvage Kit other than its additional uses." from wiki

sixdartbart · Dec 08, 2010, 10:29 PM // 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asia Skyly

Interesting possibility! I will keep an eye on that in the future. Thanks for pointing that out.

This is actually quite possible as I usually carry the cheapest as well as the Superior Salvage kits. Maybe I accidentally used the cheap version?

You exerienced nothing more then bad luck, it has NOTHING to do with the type of kit you used or any of the other wild ideas on here like they only work for the item they came on or HM items salvage more then NM items do. gold value will effect the amount of mats you get but sometimes you just get unlucky as my ss shows.

This happened to me a couple days ago and I was thinking of starting a competition thread for who got the worst salvage. hahaha

Asia Skyly · Dec 08, 2010, 11:11 PM // 23:11

I do not have the screen shot, but mine was 2!!

The interesting part, at least to me, is that I only had these miserable results in DoA!

I am going to stick with your theory that it was simply bad luck, but I find it odd that it is always with DoA golds.

Captain Bulldozer · Dec 08, 2010, 11:19 PM // 23:19

I have definitely noticed that the returns from an old school highly salvageable (but not inscriptable) drop are a lot better than those from something with a M4M inscription. But then, that's not really what you asked I suppose. So, to answer your real question, yes I've had that happen too, but have never gotten such a low amount as 2 or 3 mats. Usually its more like 10 or so (when its crappy... which seems often to me).

mechanizeddeath · Dec 08, 2010, 11:21 PM // 23:21

As with all drops and salvage, it comes down to luck and chance.

Until recently, I'd never had a Superior Vigor rune drop Sure, i'd unlocked it with faction years ago, but never gotten one as a drop. Then, a few weeks ago I finally got one, off a Plagueborn armor that dropped at the end of Vizunah square mission. According to /age at that point I'd played for 4200 hours over 65 months.

Carboplatin · Dec 09, 2010, 12:48 AM // 00:48

I've always used regular salvaged kits and got a good amount of materials from them, never 2-4.

bad luck?

Chrisworld · Dec 09, 2010, 01:10 AM // 01:10

Bad luck. But don't worry, happens to me too. It varies. I will also get large amounts sometimes too. Just remember to always use an expert/superior kit on the item and you're bound to hit a large amount sooner or later.

LifeInfusion · Dec 09, 2010, 04:04 AM // 04:04

I got 2 dust off a diamond aegis once. Measure for measure on things like granite hammers or whatever has gotten me 50-60 of dust/granite/iron.

Keep in mind it's easier to max unlucky than lucky...

Dec 08, 2010, 07:21 PM // 19:21	#1
Asia Skyly Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: California, USA Profession: Mo/	Anyone else fooled by a measure for measure? I do not recall all of the specific details, but two times I have been supremely shocked by the outcome of salvaging a gold R9+ weapon on which I had applied a measure for measure. In one instance I got a whooping 4 iron ingots. In the other, I got 2 iron ingots. Anyone else experience such abysmal results?

Dec 08, 2010, 08:02 PM // 20:02	#2
intec Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: California Guild: Brethren of Chaos[BoC] Profession: Me/E	i usually use mine on conches the usual outcome is around 60-100+ dust so far ive experienced

Dec 08, 2010, 08:07 PM // 20:07	#3
AngelWJedi Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: orlando,florida Guild: Society of Souls [Argh] Profession: Rt/E	i always gotten from 15-150 of a mat. i only get shocked if i dont get the one mat i want and get a rare from a item im trying to salvage. like ruby from a ruby dagger instead of dust. xD

Dec 08, 2010, 08:12 PM // 20:12	#4
lisa night dk Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denmark Guild: Kiss Profession: R/	probably bc u used the "normal" salvage kit instead of "Experts"

Dec 08, 2010, 08:14 PM // 20:14	#5
Mr. Blarx Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2009 Guild: NoX Profession: E/	Conches = lots of dust Dolyak prod staff = lots of dust (not as much as conches though) or iron Ruby weapons = rare chance of ruby/rubies, fair amount of granite Bramble weapons = chance of fair amount of plant fibres Great inscription I never got just 4 or 2 mats :/ low req. nightfall drops by any chance? gotta learn to read.

Dec 08, 2010, 08:30 PM // 20:30	#7
Spiritz Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: DMFC	salvage kits do same amount - only sup kits give rare mats chance. its more likely a glitch - hm items salv more than nm .

Dec 08, 2010, 08:55 PM // 20:55	#8
Ghull Ka Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Guild: Grenths Helpdesk Profession: N/	Got a gold inscribable granite hammer last night. Can't wait to put a MfM on it and hit it with a regular salvage kit. ka-CHING! (sorry, that was an anecdote, not an answer to a question... to answer the OP's question: no, i've never gotten terrible results like that unless the item was from Istan or whatnot.)

Dec 08, 2010, 09:15 PM // 21:15	#9
Voodoo Rage Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sacramento, CA Guild: Geezers Profession: R/	I once put a M4M on an R9 Diamond Aegis and it salvaged into a SINGLE pile of dust. My theory was that I managed to hit the "max" salvage number and it "roll over" to the 1. Or I was just super unlucky.

Dec 08, 2010, 09:27 PM // 21:27	#10
SpyderArachnid Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: United States Guild: Lords Of Noh [LoN] Profession: Me/	I've found that if I ID an item that has the inscription on it, then salvage it, I get bonus mats off it. But if I salvage the inscription and put it on a different item, I get nothing. In my experience, it only works for the item it was on originally. But that's just from my experience.

Dec 08, 2010, 09:39 PM // 21:39	#11
Kronk_Shaan Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Missouri Guild: Is it Friday Yet? (HI) Profession: Mo/	I have had this happen with expert and sup salvage kits, but usually it's like 13 granite or 11 dust or something instead of some awesome number. I thought it was just that I was unlucky...although, that part could still be true.

Dec 08, 2010, 09:52 PM // 21:52	#12
Premium Unleaded Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005	I always figured items that have a chance to salvage super rare materials like gems could alternatively salvage into crap amounts of normal stuff, to balance it out.

Dec 08, 2010, 11:11 PM // 23:11	#15
Asia Skyly Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: California, USA Profession: Mo/	I do not have the screen shot, but mine was 2!! The interesting part, at least to me, is that I only had these miserable results in DoA! I am going to stick with your theory that it was simply bad luck, but I find it odd that it is always with DoA golds.

Dec 08, 2010, 11:19 PM // 23:19	#16
Captain Bulldozer Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008 Guild: Servants of the Dragon Flames [SODF]	I have definitely noticed that the returns from an old school highly salvageable (but not inscriptable) drop are a lot better than those from something with a M4M inscription. But then, that's not really what you asked I suppose. So, to answer your real question, yes I've had that happen too, but have never gotten such a low amount as 2 or 3 mats. Usually its more like 10 or so (when its crappy... which seems often to me).

Dec 08, 2010, 11:21 PM // 23:21	#17
mechanizeddeath Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: As a boy I spent much time in these lands. Guild: Peppermint Candy Canes [CC] Profession: N/R	As with all drops and salvage, it comes down to luck and chance. Until recently, I'd never had a Superior Vigor rune drop Sure, i'd unlocked it with faction years ago, but never gotten one as a drop. Then, a few weeks ago I finally got one, off a Plagueborn armor that dropped at the end of Vizunah square mission. According to /age at that point I'd played for 4200 hours over 65 months.

Dec 09, 2010, 12:48 AM // 00:48	#18
Carboplatin Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: [PIG] Profession: W/A	I've always used regular salvaged kits and got a good amount of materials from them, never 2-4. bad luck?

Dec 09, 2010, 01:10 AM // 01:10	#19
Chrisworld Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2010 Guild: Gameamp Guides [AMP] Profession: W/	Bad luck. But don't worry, happens to me too. It varies. I will also get large amounts sometimes too. Just remember to always use an expert/superior kit on the item and you're bound to hit a large amount sooner or later.

Dec 09, 2010, 04:04 AM // 04:04	#20
LifeInfusion Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: in the midline Profession: E/Mo	I got 2 dust off a diamond aegis once. Measure for measure on things like granite hammers or whatever has gotten me 50-60 of dust/granite/iron. Keep in mind it's easier to max unlucky than lucky...